Leno’s single payer “Medicare for All” health bill passes Senate


Posted on 28 January 2010

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By Dan Aiello
California Progress Report

While President Obama and the nation’s Democrats struggle against the strong lobbying efforts of a for-profit health insurance industry, California’s senate voted today to advance single payer legislation - Senate Bill 810 - by a vote of 22 to 14 (21 votes are needed to pass).

Democratic leaders and healthcare advocates claim the legislation will save state, county and city budgets billions while fully insuring all Californians by eliminating the profit and greed of health insurance companies through the creation of a Medicare-like single payer state system. 

Republican opponents of the idea of single payer insurance point out that Democrats passed as SB2 in the final days of the Davis administration, similar legislation the insurance industry successfully repealed and opposed by the state’s current governor through voter referendum in 2007.

When asked if he thinks the governor’s position on single payer healthcare has changed, Andrew McGuire, Executive Director of Healthcare for All, California told the California Progress Report, “No, I do not.”  But McGuire, who also heads the campaign for universal healthcare in the Golden State, Californiaonecare.org, is un-phased by likely veto by the State’s current Republican governor. “We’re in the midst of building a grassroots mass movement,” McGuire told CPR. “When the people demand reform, even conservative legislators will begin to jump on board.”

While the California Medical Association supported SB 2, opponents like the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons coined the universal coverage passed as SB 2, “Pay or Play,” and this law was repealed by voters unfamiliar with the concept.

Despite the recent GOP victory of Senator Ted Kennedy’s Massachusetts Senate seat, McGuire claims any analysis of that vote as a “repudiation” of healthcare reform “is simply not true,” contending that for the last decade Gallup, Field and Kaiser surveys have consistently shown Californians favor universal, single payer health insurance similar to Medicare – a program with which they are familiar – with voter sentiment improving for such a program as late as November, 2009.
 
Registered Democrats largely support the idea, while registered Republicans largely oppose it.

McGuire and other advocates for SB810 are furious about what they describe as “disingenuous” attacks by opponents of single payer health insurance.  “The Republicans and many reporters are saying that SB 810 creates new spending for the state,” explained {ALI BAY}a spokesperson for Senator Leno.  “That is NOT the case. Single-payer health care works by pooling the resources we already spend collectively as a state on health care – and then by cutting out the middleman - for-profit insurance companies - we can reduce administrative waste and cover all residents.”

Earlier Leno stated, “There is no new spending – in fact the state already spends a good chunk of its payroll on health insurance already, like benefits for fire fighters, teachers, public servants, not to mention all of our safety net programs that provide health care. All of those resources, in addition to employer and employee contributions, would simply be redirected into universal health care for all.”

“The LAO said that if the bill was paid for by the way the sponsors of the 2004 legislation suggested in 2004, we’d have a shortfall of $40 billion dollars. The $40 billion would be the shortfall only if we used the same tax scheme,” explained McGuire. “If we propose a 3.5% tax on employees and and 8.5% tax on employers, for a total of 12% tax on wages, there would be no deficit and full coverage,” something McGuire claims most Californians currently lack, even calling many health insurance programs, “junk insurance.”

SB 810 calls for no tax increase on the first $7k of wages earned by Californians, reducing the burden on the lowest income wage earners.

According to McGuire, single payer health insurance would cost Californians less, (12% versus current insurance of 22-25%), and provide full insurance, including dental and vision, without deductibles and without co-pays.

“Auto insurance in California would go down because of single payer health insurance,” McGuire adds, “and it wouldn’t cost anything to the state because its self-funded.”

At the request of millions of single-payer health care advocates, Leno authored SB 810 “because it is the only health care reform that can truly contain health care costs and provide every Californian with comprehensive, quality, affordable health care,” according to his office. 

This “Medicare for All” type of program works by pooling together the money that government, employers and individuals already spend on health care and using it more efficiently, claim its advocates.

Single payer advocates also claim, these are not “new dollars” as opponents to SB 810 claim. They are existing dollars put to better use by cutting out the for-profit middle man. The bill ensures that 95% of every health care dollar is devoted to patient care, not insurance company profits.

Currently California spends $200 billion annually on what single payer advocates call “a fragmented, inefficient health care system that wastes 30% of every dollar on administration. SB 810 is intended to eliminate wasteful spending and put doctors back in charge of health care planning. Patients would choose their own providers and hospitals, and the state of California will end wildly unaffordable health care premiums, inadequate coverage and life-threatening insurance company denials.

Advocates argue the fact that the United States pays twice the per capita health care costs of all other industrialized countries and rank 37th among nations in health care results according to the World Health Organization, clearly demonstrates the failure of our current system.

“Many of those who claim they are happy with the current system either mean they have enough disposable income to pay for the 33% profit of insurance companies or they haven’t needed the health insurance yet to find the lifetime caps on spending imposed by for-profit insurers," McGuire told CPR.

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Dan Aiello, is the Sacramento reporter for the California Progress Report.

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I support this idea. For those who have not yet been afflicted with chronic illness, I want to let you know these insurance companies are built for profit, not providing the best care.

Matt Damon once starred in a movie called The Rainmaker about an insurance company denying coverage to a boy afflicted with cancer until finally the boy died.

After several denial letters the company CEO wrote the boy's mother telling her she's submitted the claim 15 times and 15 times the claim was denied. "You must be stupid, stupid, stupid," concluded the CEO with all the tact of someone robbing the body of a dying man.

Should you become chronically ill, as I am, you will find that depiction is not much of a reach.

Every time I see a for-profit insurance ad bashing the public option, conjuring 'death panels' and the best scare tactics their millions can buy, all I can hear are the CEOs of our 'only in America where everything is for sale' for-profit insurance companies telling the American public, "you must be stupid, stupid, stupid."

I, for one, have finally wised up.

The state government that can't get a budget through thinks that they can manage health care for 37 million Californians?

The government that has seen public education in this state become a poor joke - that has one-third of our students dropping out between ninth grade and graduation -

http://www.cde.ca.gov/nr/ne/yr08/yr08rel103.asp

thinks it is going to be able to manage health care resources for 37 million people?

The state that is $20 billion in the hole for next year already thinks it has the financial resources and management expertise to make this happen?

Good Lord. These people have delusions of grandeur, when nothing they have done in the past even suggests that delusions of adequacy would be appropriate.

California already manages healtcare for millions of its citizens through both MediCal and Medicare. Because of its huge numbers of patients the golden state has the leverage to obtain some of the lowest per diem reimbursements to providers, most lower than for-profit insurers - of any insurer.

In other words, the size of the state benefits taxpayers as state contracts reimburse pharmaceutical, hospital, physician and ancillary care providers at a cost effective rate better than the for-profit insurers, who simply pass along their costs (in order to pay their 33% profit to themselves) to consumers like you, George.

It may be popular to attack government, but there are cases, like negotiating healthcare provider contracts, where having a collective of millions of consumers is beneficial.

George, simply look up what California pays pharmaceutical companies for medication to its HIV patients (ADAP), or physician visits or hospital stays for Medicare/Medical, or straight MediCal patients. The state, by volume, reimburses at significantly lower rates.

Health insurance companies, on the other hand, pass the cost on two ways... through premium increases and through benefits cutting.

Finally, if George ever visits Connecticut and sees for himself just what Joe Lieberman was protecting during the healthcare battle, he will see these companies large office buildings with thousands of employees trudging in and out of the building every workday. The same as any state office. Only the sign on the building is different.

The difference: The state bureaucracy won't syphon off 33% profit every quarter or raise rates without public consent or knowledge. The insurance company bureaucracy is still a bureaucracy.

By taking for-profits out of the equation, the state can offer cheaper, better, full coverage without deductibles and we, as a collective, would have at least some control over our healthcare insurance. Who with private insurance can say that about their coverage when congress no longer enforces anti-trust laws allowing insurance monopolies and insurers to follow suit in dropping benefits?

George, I know you're a die hard Republican, but we all need to come together and really look at the facts. Maybe we can ask the right questions and create a better system. Are you familiar with the Japanese model? The Medicare model is a good example of government's ability to pay less and get more. And post-managed care companies, Medicare and Medical are actually preferred patients in most office waiting rooms and hospital beds. Some HMOs pay doctors $12 per month per patient whether they're seen or not. That system creates an incentive for doctors to increase patient load and resent, even drop, chronically ill patients who become huge cost burdens to providers. The HMO model versus the Medicare or Cal model? No competition, the government model improves the quality of healthcare.

George, I know you're a die hard Republican,
Nonsense. They are nearly as screwed up as the democrats.

Actually, I have spent a career in health care - most of that employed by the federal government. The reality is that Medicare generally pays only a fraction of its actual costs - forcing cost shifting to people who have insurance. MediCal is nearly as bad.

The bizarre thing is that this is like funding mass transit with a gas tax on private automobiles. It's a funding model that will work ONLY as long as people are either willing to pay a premium to avoid using mass transit or are UNABLE to use mass transit.

Should everyone decide to NOT use their private vehicles ever again, mass transit would not have the capacity to handle the load - and even if they did they would not have the revenue to pay for it.

The situation with Medicare and MediCal is much the same. As long as insurance companies and others exist to provide the resources to offset the government mandated low reimbursement rates, Medicare and MediCal can survive. Get rid of the portion of the medical care that is being funded by others, and the government will have to pay their fair share - something they haven't done for decades.

Even in the current circumstances most medical practices are advised by their management consultants to limit Medicare/Medicaid patients to no more than 18% of their total practice. Many physicians are getting out of the medicare/medical business altogether. They can't meet their costs if they don't.

http://www.orthosupersite.com/view.asp?rID=23015

http://www.managedcaremag.com/archives/0612/0612.costshift.html

http://www.ahip.org/content/pressrelease.aspx?docid=25218

Here is an article from the National Institutes of health:

http://gateway.nlm.nih.gov/MeetingAbstracts/ma?f=103623049.html

An excerpt:
IMPLICATIONS FOR POLICY, DELIVERY OR PRACTICE: Apparently, how much Medicare pays providers in any given year is not primarily an analytical but rather a political decision, based on how much the government can afford and which parts of the health care system politically "push" the hardest and most effectively. The paper concludes that cost shifting is becoming an increasingly important issue for individuals, because they have assumed a disproportionate share of the dramatic increase in health care costs that have occurred in recent years.

Healthcare organizations turning down Medicare patients because they lose money on them is happening already:

http://www.hospitalreviewmagazine.com/news-and-analysis/business-and-fin...

One can mandate that people provide services for less than the actual cost of delivering those services as long as they have another source that offset's that, but this bill proposes to eliminate that golden goose. The result will be complete collapse.

As the baby-boomers age, health care providers (many of whom are themselves baby-boomers) may simply retire or move rather than attempt to deal with the California bureaucracy.

So stop being so damn condescending, Paulie, I know whereof I speak....

The survey linked to this article shows a true gap in those who want government protection from for-profit insurers and those, quite frankly, who have never needed that protection.

I have a family of friends, conservative, republican, anti-government. Educated and intelligent, they simply didn't believe government should play any role in healthcare.

Then there son Matt, a freshman in college, received his brother Tom's 1966 mustang. Driving back to school from the family's Hollister home, Matt had an accident and was left a parapalegic.

The experience was heart wrenching, and there were times when parents and brother admitted they thought Matt would've been better off dead. But that, too, was part of their journey.

I have a family of friends now, still conservative, still republican, still anti-government, except when it comes to healthcare. Having been put through the ringer, having been denied by the insurer they paid good money to protect them, they are now advocates for single payer health insurance.

At some point the scales will tip, when private insurers deny one too many Californians. But why must we all learn the same lesson? Can't we learn from others? When will we join every other developed nation and eliminate the 33% profit taking by these companies who, in the end, really add nothing to healthcare, only syphon off billions every year of funds we need to restore healthcare, full healthcare including dental and vision, to us all?

Well that's a very good news.It will help a lot and could make a difference and will help people to get some benefits and rest assured that we will be served well and guided properly by laws.Anyway.I would like to share some important information in connection to this issue and with our present economic condition. If you're debt is out of control, you do have options besides bankruptcy.I was staring down that same barrel several years ago,but I decided that I'd try something else first.I talked to a debt counselor,and he helped me come up with some debt management plans to pay off my creditors and repair credit, more or less for myself. I really wasn't thrilled with the prospect of running for payday loans every month any more, and he helped me start getting debt relief. My credit score has been trending upward ever since, and I feel a lot more in control of my finances and my life because of it.

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