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Hillary Clinton and Iraq: Why This is Important

Doug-Thomason.gif By Douglas N. Thomason

A major theme of Senator Hillary Clinton’s campaign has been that her experience makes her best prepared among the Democrats to assume the Presidency. In citing that experience, she is presumably claiming more than mere longevity in public life; she is asserting that her record over the years shows leadership, including the character and judgment Democrats and Americans would want in a President.

In stressing this as a 1 ½ term senator, she also implicitly suggests that former President Clinton would play a significant role in her administration as he is in her campaign. His prominent role in her campaign has caused it to increasingly be referred to as that of "Billary" Clinton. It is critical in assessing her claims to look in some detail at the most important vote she has cast while holding office, that authorizing President Bush to invade Iraq, as well as the handling of the issue of the Iraq war in her campaign.

In the Senate debate in October 2002 on the vote on whether to give President Bush authority to invade Iraq, Senator Clinton made a well crafted and carefully thought out argument. In it she gave very much of an on the one hand but on the other hand speech, ultimately voting, of course, for authorization for war. In describing the rationale for approving the carte blanche given Bush, she focused on Saddam’s alleged efforts to rebuild his WMD program, including his nuclear program, as well as his links to al-Qaida, to whom she claimed he was giving "aid, comfort and sanctuary." She claimed that Saddam’s ongoing WMD programs and links to al-Qaida, were "undisputed." At the close of her speech she stressed that she cast this vote "with conviction" and asked President Bush to use these powers "wisely." She has admitted that she never read the National Intelligence Report relating to Iraq.

It is common knowledge now that neither of her premises were correct. It is also clear that there was ample information in the intelligence community readily available at the time undercutting both assertions. Saddam had no WMD program, no nuclear program and no links to al-Qaida. Indeed Saddam and al-Qaida were enemies, the former the tyrannical ruler of a secular dictatorship and the latter religious fanatics. Not only was the alleged "link" nonexistent, it made no sense. Her request that President Bush use the powers she granted him "wisely" was classic abdication of responsibility when it was evident that the Bush Administration was determined to invade Iraq for reasons unrelated to alleged WMDs or links to al-Qaida. After the passage of that resolution the war was inevitable.

Senator Clinton insists that she has no regrets about her vote, and has said simply said that if she’d known then what she knows now she would have voted differently, without ever explaining what she’s learned that would have changed her vote. In contrast, to his credit, Senator Edwards has called his vote for the war a "mistake." It seems clear that she sacrificed the good of the country for her political ambitions.

Instead of explaining her position, the Clintons distorted Senator Obama’s in a Karl Rove like maneuver of attacking an opponent’s strength by misrepresenting his record. Former President Bill Clinton complained after his wife’s loss in Iowa that the press was not scrutinizing Obama and claimed that in 2004 Obama stated that he did not know how he would have voted on the resolution had he been in the Senate. He termed Obama’s consistent opposition to the War a "fairy tale."

But Senator Obama’s consistent opposition to the war is anything but the "fairy tale" Bill Clinton wishes it to be. In October 2002, the same month that Senator Clinton voted to authorize the war, Obama gave a speech in Chicago vehemently opposing it. He said that he opposed the invasion, that it had been advocated by right wing ideologues, that Saddam posed "no imminent threat" to the United States, that the war would be costly, of undetermined length, and would be counterproductive and strengthen al-Qaeda.

In the July 2004 comments referenced by President Clinton, Obama was declining to criticize the Democratic nominees for President and Vice-President, Senators Kerry and Edwards both of whom had voted for the authorization. But he was emphatic that "What I know is that from my vantage point the case [for war] was not made" and faulted Democratic leaders for not asking more questions and giving President Bush "a pass." But, as he was not yet a United States Senator, he said that he was not privy to intelligence reports at the time and that it was conceivable that there might have been intelligence that would have changed his mind. It is this statement that has been twisted by former President Clinton. As we now know there was no such intelligence.

Joseph Steiglitz, a Nobel Laureate in Economics, estimates the total cost to the United States of the invasion of Iraq at $2 trillion. This includes all economic consequences such as lifetime treatment for injured soldiers, increased energy prices, payments on interest for debt to finance the war, as well as more direct costs apparent in the budget. The war also radicalized more Muslims and made America less, not more, safe. It has distracted the country from other pressing issues such as global warming, economic polarization, and health care and drained the nation financially, constricting its ability to initiate or expand other programs.

Character? Judgment? Think of this the next time Senator Clinton argues that she’s the candidate who is ready to run the American government "on day one" because of her experience.

Douglas N. Thomason is an attorney living in San Francisco.

Posted on February 01, 2008

Comments

An excellent article!

I have one thing to take up with the author and that is his use of Karl Rove here to make a point:

"Instead of explaining her position, the Clintons distorted Senator Obama’s in a Karl Rove like maneuver of attacking an opponent’s strength by misrepresenting his record."

I don't really think the point should be amplified by a "Karl Rove like maneuver" when it was actually just the Clintons being the Clintons again!

Looks like some of the dems, like the author of this article, are just now figuring that out...

Posted by: Jay Gould at February 1, 2008 08:57 AM

Nice article. We get it you are an Obama supporter. Unfortunately you are wrong. Jihadists have been around for years and if you research you will realize that the pinnacle of their hate coincides with the liberal movement. From the 60's to the 70's, 80's, up to today. Yes they hate us and want to kill us that is a gimme. But do you think its because we love our neighbor as our selves? Why do they call us infidels? Is it because we dont abort babies or cheat on our spouses? Arent we infidels? Our own president was.

As for less safe. Do you think Obamas agenda is rock solid max security homeland safe? Who do you think Bin Laden fears more Obama or Bush? They want Obama or Hilary to win. It would make the profession of terrorizing much more easier. With Obama we'll have "socialized" terrorism. Got to help the less fortunate terrorist. We'll take from the hard working succesful terrorist and redistribute to the the ones that cant afford that explosive vest. Last time I checked we havent had a terrorist attack since 9/11. We might be less safe in Liberal Land.

As for Saddam an enemy of Al Qaida? We declared a hostile regime was one that supported terrorism, not just Al Qaida. Get your facts straight. Is giving families of suicide bombers money incentives not supporting terrorists? Without question, Iraq was a nation that provided "safe haven" for terrorists with "global reach". Among them were terrormaster Abu Nidal, Abdul Rahman Yasin, one of the conspirators in the 1993 WTC bombing, Khala Khadr al-Salahat, the man who reputedly made the bomb for the Libyan terrorists that brought down Pan Am Flight 103 over Scotland, Abu Abbas, mastermind of the October 1985 Achille Lauro hijacking and murder of Leon Klinghoffer, and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, formerly the director of an al Qaeda training base in Afghanistan who is now believed to be leading Al-Qaeda's forces in Iraq. Quite frankly, any war on terrorism that didn't tackle that nest of vipers would have been a war in name only, a bumper sticker per say. You know like global warming when theres record cold, snow in Buenos Aires and growing glaciers.

What about the Iraq Liberation act of 1998? And if I'm not mistaken, it was a Democrat in office who declared that;

"The great threat confronting the United States and its allies was a lethal and "unholy axis" of international terrorists and outlaw states. "They will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them." There was, Clinton declared, "no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein's Iraq. His regime threatens the safety of his people, the stability of his region and the security of all the rest of us."

As for Obama. He sounds great but has done absolutely nothing. A Kennedy visage with Carter potential. But the liberal media is trying their best to make him out to be a Kennedy. They are even trying to make Hilary into Thatcher and of course the evil Bush empire. Propaganda that would have made the Soviet Union so proud. Pravda gots nothing on the New York Times.

I could write for days but only had 3 1/2 minutes.

Posted by: Xris M at February 2, 2008 04:07 AM

Xris M,

For what it is worth, I agree with much of what you have said here.

It is also a great illustration of how "talking" with those on the left can be quite frustrating. My approach was a current "soundbite".

Yours was the often neglected big-picture and HISTORICAL contex way. To "feel good", those on the left often FORGET the past (f they ever knew it) when making their "points" that only serve both todays short term attention spans and political goals.

Recall the next world-wide ice age only a couple of decades ago? Now it's global warming...

Everybody, left and right wants a clean and tidy world. But global warming is pure politics to many on the left as a vehicle to get/maintain power through emotion.

Posted by: Jay Gould at February 2, 2008 10:26 AM

I completely agree--the "if I knew then what I know now" defense is competely disingenuous. I suspect she knew what was in the National Intelligence Report (presumably she has staff whose job it is to check these things out and inform her) but she just thought that it would put her too far to the left in the public's perception at that time. Immediate expediency trumped principle and intelligent thinking about where it would put our nation in the future.

Posted by: Edward Dean at February 3, 2008 12:05 PM


Congratulations on a reasoned and well stated position. Comparing the voting records of Clinton and Obama with respect to the war in Iraq is both relevant and intelligent. The majority of Americans no longer support this war and the high current and future costs in economic, diplomatic, physical and mental health terms to our own population and the people of Iraq.

If our elected officials, including Senator Clinton, were better students of history, they would make wiser domestic as well as foreign policy. And if the Democratic presidential contestants really cared about improving the disastrous state of affairs to which we have arrived after 7 years of another Bush, they would remember history's rule: division precedes conquest. Senator Clinton's track record during this campaign has negated whatever experience advantage she claims over Senator Obama. She should return to the Senate and play a leading role in redirecting the future of her country.

Posted by: Sherry Keith at March 26, 2008 07:00 PM

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Posted by: jojooo bean at May 21, 2008 08:15 AM

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