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Clinton Can No Longer Count on California Win in Primary as Race Narrows According to Field Poll
Some Very Interesting Numbers Indeed Below the Hood of This Survey
By Frank D. Russo
The California Field Poll has just released a survey taken between December 10 and 17 that shows Hillary Clinton’s once 25 point edge in California has declined to 14% over Barack Obama, and that if third place John Edwards were to drop out of the race, it would be even closer. Virtually all of the movement in the poll comes from a drop in support from Clinton from October when she had the support of 45% of likely primary voters to 36% in the latest survey and an increase in undecided Democratic primary voters to 20%, up from 14% previously.
There are many other interesting findings in the Field Poll. It is an accurate snapshot of the voters’ opinions at the time taken, as Field is one of the most reliable pollsters in the Golden State with a track record since 1947. These numbers could change dramatically in another 15 days when the Iowa caucuses report results in what is acknowledged to be a very tight race and New Hampshire and other states vote before California. In fact, given the dramatic shifts in these earlier states since Field started polling for this release, it may have shifted more towards a fluid race here in California.
It also should be noted that while there is a beauty contest as to the overall vote in the California primary, there are races in 53 Congressional Districts that elect the bulk of our state’s delegation to the Democratic primary. But for now, here are some of the very interesting findings in this poll—and they go deeper than the horserace, to which we turn first.
Clinton is now preferred against likely voters in the Democratic primary by 36% to 22% for Barack Obama, and 13% for John Edwards. The rest of the pack are at 3% or below.
For Clinton, this represents a drop from a high of 49% in August and 45% in October, a drop of 13 points over the last four months.
Obama has held steady or perhaps increased his support since the last two surveys, but he is within the margin of error in this respect. He is preferred by 22% of likely voters, up from 19% in August and 20% in October.
Edwards is at 13%, perhaps up slightly from the 10% in the august survey and the 11% in the October survey, but also within the margin of error.
The biggest change is in the numbers of undecided voters who have steadily increased from 9% in March to 12% in August, 14% in October, to 20% in this survey.
Both Clinton and Obama are seen favorably by likely Democratic voters, Obama perhaps a bit more so with 76% to 13% favorable to unfavorable to Clinton’s 76% to 18%, but both high numbers. Obama clearly has an edge amongst “non-partisan/other voters,” many of whom can vote in the Democratic primary. He has a 70% to 15% favorable rating and Clinton enjoys a 59% to 33% favorable rating.
Field’s model has 13% of those participating in the Democratic primary as coming from those who are not registered with a party (the “decline to state” or DTS voters). In that segment of the vote, Obama has a lead of 305 to 27% over Clinton, within the margin of error of the poll (higher with this smaller group than the overall 4.7% margin of error). Clinton has the edge with voters who are registered Democrats 38% to 21%.
Clinton leads in all for regions of the state, but has dropped in three of those regions—from 50% in Los Angeles County to 38%, from 44% in “other Southern California” to 44%, and from 50% in the San Francisco Bay Area to 39%. Her support in “other Northern California” remains constant at 31%.
There is a huge gender gap here—Clinton has a commanding 41% to 21% lead with women voters. She has a much narrower lead with men—305 to 24% over Obama. Curiously, Field has 58% of the vote in the Democratic primary coming from women and only 42% of the overall vote from men.
Clinton leads strongly with older voters. Those 65 and older favor her 45% to 11% over Abama. But this group also has the highest undecided numbers at 24%, up from 19% previously. The numbers are closer amongst the 40 to 64 year olds where she has a 9 point edge, 35% to 24% for Obama and he has definitely gained in this age group as her share has declined since the last survey where she led 43% to 19%. The race is closest in the 18 to 39 year old voting group where Clinton has a 32% to 28% edge, about at the margin of error of the poll. But this is a huge drop for her, as in the October survey her lead with younger voters was 52% to 25%, and the undecided numbers have spiked with younger voters from 10% previously to 19%.
As for political ideology, Clinton has her narrowest lead with self described liberals (35% to 26%), has an increased lead with “middle of the road” voters (38% to 23%), and an amazing 34% to 6% edge amongst conservative voters who will make up 14% of those voting in the Democratic primary according to Field. Her 20 point lead with liberals has decreased to 11 points, her 32 point lead with middle of the roaders has declined to 15 points, and her lead has probably lengthened with conservative voters in the Democratic primary, which is a small portion of the expected vote and is reflected in a small sample denoted by an asterisk.
It is interesting that Clinton’s lead in union household voters is less (29% to 24%) than with non union household voters (40% to 21%). She has a strong lead with Latinos (42% to 22%), a similar lead with the small sample of Asians/others (44% to 20%)less with White non-Hispanics (34% to 21%), and with a small sample, it appears that Barack Obama has more Black support (38% to 28%). But in each of these racial/ethnic groupings Clinton has lost support and there are more decideds. For instance, in October she could count on 52% of the Latino vote and had a 20 point lead over Obama at 16%, but in this survey she has dropped 10 points, he has increased by 6 points, and undecided voters have increased to 6 points, so that her previous lead of 36 points with Latinos is down to 20 points.
As income increases, so is the likelihood of voters favoring Obama, but Clinton has strong leads in those making under $80,000 a year in household income which are expected to be the largest segment of voters as to income.
Clinton has what appears to be an edge with those who will be casting ballots by mail—expected to be 43% of the turnout in the Democratic primary. She leads here by 16 points, by a margin of 40% to 24% over Obama. On those expected to cast a vote in their precincts her lead is 13 points (345 to 21%).
Field has done something very interesting here and analyzed where Edwards vote would go were he to withdraw from the race before the Democratic primary in California—as has been speculated about if he has a poor showing in Iowa and New Hampshire. The results are that Obama would gain the most of Edward’s share of voters by a margin 40% to 24% in this scenario. Richardson would pick up 11% of these votes—much higher than his 3% in the polls now, Biden 6% and others or not sure account for about one-fifth of these voters.
The race becomes even tighter if Edwards withdraws, or in my opinion if he does poorly but stays in.
Two more important and not to be overlooked parts of the data here.
By a large margin, 52% to 18% for Obama, and 16% for Edwards, likely voters in the Democratic primary believe Clinton has the best chance of being elected President if her or she were the nominee. If Obama wins earlier primaries, this number may change significantly.
Yet this poll shows that both Clinton and Obama will win California, and in fact Obama has the potential to secure more Republican and non-partisan/other voters in the general election here in California. 38% of expected California voters say they will definitely vote for Clinton in November and another 23% will consider voting for her—totaling 61%. 35% say they will definitely vote for Obama and 25% say they will consider voting for him, totaling 70%. 36% of California voters say they will definitely not vote for Clinton and 26% say they will definitely not vote for Obama. Clinton is despited by Republicans, who view her unfavorably 77% to 18%, whereas Republicans in California have a mixed view of Obama (43% favorable to 41% unfavorable). Obama does much better with non-partisan others, where he is seen favorably 70% to 15% than Clinton’s 59% to 33% favorable rating amongst these voters.
Both Obama and Clinton have their strengths and weaknesses in this snapshot. The earlier primaries may do some winnowing of the field and give one or the other an edge in the “big mo”—momentum. If Edwards wins earlier contests, this could change overnight. As these earlier states will set the stage, it is California and other states on February 5 that will probably decide the nominee.
Remember—the only poll that counts is on Election Day—including the ballots mailed in before then. The results are not preordained. Get involved with the candidate of your choice by clicking here. As Bay Area radion reporter Scoop Nisker ended his broadcasts in the active times decades ago—“If you don’t like the news, go out and make some of your own.”
Comments
I voted for Bill, twice (without regret). But time passes on. With the talent we have in the primary this year, the Clintons appear to be so over. Hillary is superior to any Republican, but not by much. For me it's JRE or BHO, which ever of them can beat her ass in the Primary.
Posted by: Vigilante at December 19, 2007 07:28 PM
Not that my vote for President counts at all in this state, but I've never really understood the draw Mrs. Clinton has on Democrats. I could never vote for her.
I can't say I believe anything that comes out of her mouth (in whatever accent she talks in).
Nor do I care for the GOP candidates other than the one who really stands no chance, Ron Paul.
Of both parties candidates, he seems to be only one with a firm grasp of monetary policy and a foreign policy that saves medicare and social security.
If Clinton wins the election, she will have a heck of a time getting legislation passed. No doubt we will stay in Iraq until 2013, billions more into the hole. No doubt most proposed legislation will be stalled or derailed, and the value of the dollar will continue to drop.
With Hillary and Obama we will spend and borrow more to fund those expanded programs.
Posted by: AngelDecoys at December 19, 2007 08:40 PM
I have known for awhile that the MSM wanted me to select one of the top-three of their choices. But I will vote for the candidate that is compatible to my beliefs.
I have lost my trust with the Main-stream Media. Particularly today. There was more new coverage of the family that were lost and rescued at Butte County than the death of Congressman Dennis Kucinich's brother.
There was more news coverage when Elizabeth Edwards, wife of Presidential candidate John Edwards was diagnosed with breast cancer.
But NO respect given for a decent man (Congressman Kucinich) who has worked tirelessly defending our U.S. Constitution and the rule of LAW; the most progressive presidential candidate.
If it were not for independent media and the internet; NO one would even know who he is and what he has done for our Nation and People. Congressman Dennis Kucinich is a Presidential Candidate and deserve to be treated better. As a Presidential Candidate; HE IS A NATIONAL figure.
There are MORE worthless criminals and drugged-up celebrities that get more publicity. While a decent man who has the spine to stand up for our nation gets no respect.
The Main-Stream Media ought to be ashame........
If a relative of any of the top-teir candidate are ill or get hurt or found dead; it would have been front page news.
Posted by: anon at December 19, 2007 11:31 PM
Thanks for the post. It is a good summary of where the campaigns are.
It will be particularly interesting to see if campaigns themselves make much of a difference- or is it 95% media.
Posted by: Duane Campbell at December 20, 2007 07:23 PM
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