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California Tribal Casino Compact Amendments: Four Major Flaws

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By Peter Dreier, Ph.D.
Professor of Politics
Occidental College

Part 3 in a 3 part series
(For part 1, click here)
(For part 2, click here)

THE COMPACTS’ FOUR MAJOR FLAWS

Revenue sharing falls far short

Revenue sharing between tribes and states is a common feature of tribal gambling compacts. Tribes agree to revenue sharing largely because the state promises to exclude others from the lucrative gambling industry.

Governor Schwarzenegger’s principal argument in favor of the casino expansions is that they will generate new money for the state’s General Fund. But when compared to the amounts secured by other states in similar agreements, it is clear the governor cut a bad deal for California.

Governor Schwarzenegger secured just 12.6 percent of gaming revenues from the Agua Caliente for California, an amount worth only one-half the revenue sharing between Connecticut and its two gaming tribes, and only one-quarter of the amount agreed upon in Pennsylvania and Florida.

The governor’s office projects $500 million in new General Fund revenue in the first year and as much as $700 million per year over the 23-year term of the agreements.

If California had achieved the same agreement as Pennsylvania and Florida, the state’s General Fund would have been entitled to triple the amount for which the governor settled. (Office of the Governor. August 29, 2006. Press release. Pechanga)

If the governor had secured a deal in line with Connecticut’s, the state General Fund would earn $1.1 billion per year. In either case, the numbers show the governor vastly undersold the exclusive right to operate casinos in the state.

The 12.6 percent figure negotiated by the governor is further diminished by the fact that the tribes are not required to pay income or corporate taxes as are all other commercial enterprises. The tribes contribute virtually nothing to the state’s schools, housing, infrastructure, health care or public safety needs.

Can they afford to pay more? An examination of industry profits indicates the answer is most certainly “yes.” Financial analysts measure a gambling company’s profitability using a figure called “Earnings Before Interest, Taxes and Depreciation” or EBITDA. (For a discussion, see Investopedia)Using EBITDA, analysts calculated an average net profit margin of 26 percent for the five largest, most successful, publicly-traded gambling companies in 2003. Agua Caliente’s net profit margin on its casino operations for that same year was 52 percent, based on its published revenue bond prospectus – fully twice as lucrative as its publicly-traded counterparts.

A strict comparison between publicly-traded gambling companies and the tribes is not possible because publicly traded companies pay taxes from their earnings while tribes do not. Tribes do, however, use gambling revenues to run their tribal governments and provide for the welfare of their members. Taking this into account, the Agua’s financial results from 2003 suggest the tribe could share with the state approximately 47 percent of its slot revenues and still easily exceed the profitability of the five most successful publicly- traded gambling corporations.

Foxwoods, the world’s largest casino, is an instructive example of a mega-slot casino similar to those slated for California. (The Connecticut Tribal-State Gaming Compact does not oblige the Pequots to conduct impact studies of their casinos, therefore, impact figures are difficult to obtain.) Located halfway between the population centers of New York and Boston, Foxwoods operates 7,400 slot machines in six casinos, and takes in $1.2 billion annually. Twenty-five percent of its revenue goes to the state – nearly twice what the governor proposes for California tribes.

A more equitable revenue sharing agreement should take many factors into consideration, including the profitability of a particular tribe’s casino and its other needs.

But by any standard, it is clear that the governor failed to achieve a satisfactory bargain for taxpayers, and in fact gave away the exclusive right to operate casinos for far too little.

Compounding the financial shortcomings, the proposed compacts jeopardize $140 million currently paid by tribes into a fund that provides grants to local governments, among other things. The independent Legislative Analyst’s Office (LAO) reports that these funds “would drop substantially as several tribes with large casinos would cease making payments to the [fund.]” (Legislative Analyst’s Office report “Questions and Answers: California Tribal Casinos,” February 2, 2007).


Specifically, the LAO predicted fund revenues would decline by more than 50 percent under the new agreements. Alternatively, if grants to local communities and other programs supported by this fund, such as gambling addiction programs, are to be maintained at current levels, the shortfalls would have to be made up from the state General Fund, reducing the financial value of the new agreements even further. There is no guarantee the Legislature would appropriate General Fund dollars to make up for local governments’ lost gaming revenues, or that the governor himself would not use these funds for other purposes.

Local growth without a local voice

Casinos of the five tribes currently range in size from 150,000 to 450,000 square feet, and employ an estimated 12,500 out of a statewide total of 54,000 industry employees. They have the potential to grow enormously, and accordingly, the potential to alter permanently the character of the communities in which they are located.

Traffic is perhaps the most significant issue at all of the five Southern California tribal casinos seeking expansion. Each of the new mega-casinos would generate an estimated 27,000 car trips per day. ((Comparison to statistics from a similar sized casino in Connecticut. Town of Ledyard. “Impact of Foxwoods Resort & Casino on Local Host Communities.” 16 March 1998.)

By comparison, PETCO Park, the downtown home of the San Diego Padres and ARCO Arena, the Sacramento Kings’ stadium, are two facilities that are similar to the scale of these huge new casinos. PETCO Park spans 657,000 square feet and has a seating capacity of 42,445 fans. The Padres play 81 home games in it from April to October. ARCO Arena covers 442,000 square feet and has a seating capacity of 17,317 for the 41 regular season home games played from October through April.

Each of the five Southern California communities would play host to the equivalent of a sold-out Padres game and an almost sold-out Kings game every weekend night as customers visit the new, expanded casinos. Yet unlike the Padres and Kings’ home games – which take place over the course of several months and may not be played at certain times of the day – the five new casinos would operate 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.

Many residents of communities such as Dehesa Valley near San Diego, home to the two-lane roadway serving Sycuan Casino, cannot imagine any growth at all, much less the daily equivalent of a major league baseball game.

Despite the governor’s promises that the new casinos would not be built “without the support of the community,” (Office of the Governor. August 8, 2006. Press release. Sacramento, CA.) the Agua Caliente compact simply requires it to choose one of three ways to show community support for an expansion: 1) a local vote, 2) an endorsement from local elected officials or 3) an anonymous telephone poll of 400 residents. The compact spells out the four survey questions on which the finding of support would be based. The first two ask whether the respondent is a resident and whether they have heard of the casino expansion proposal. Only two questions can be construed to measure “public support.” “Do you support or oppose Native American owned casino gambling in the city/county?” And, “Would you say you strongly support/oppose that Native American owned casino gambling or just somewhat support/oppose it?”

In contrast, former California Governor Pete Wilson, Schwarzenegger’s Republican predecessor, negotiated agreements that required a local vote before tribes got the go-ahead to build their gambling palaces. Although it was within Governor Schwarzenegger’s authority to achieve stronger safeguards, he essentially gave away permission to build the world’s largest casinos without local residents having any say, with the ludicrous exception of an anonymous telephone survey in Palm Springs, conducted at the tribe’s discretion.

In late November 2006, just two months after the proposed compacts were announced by the Schwarzenegger administration, the Agua Caliente unveiled a proposal for a casino hotel resort project that will span one-half mile of downtown Palm Springs. This is in addition to another $210 million, 400-room high-rise hotel and gambling expansion already underway at the tribe’s casino in Rancho Mirage. The city of Rancho Mirage asked the Agua Caliente to delay approving its $210 million casino expansion project started in 2005 until the city and the tribe could reach an agreement to address the casino’s traffic impacts. (Pratt, Patrick, City Manager, Rancho Mirage, “Re: Discussion Items for Negotiating an Intergovernmental Agreement.” January 13, 2006.) The tribe’s dismissal of the city’s repeated requests provides insight into how they could respond to concerns raised communities affected by their future expansions. (Gruszecki, Debra, “Tribe, City at Odds Over Expansion.” The Desert Sun. February 5, 2006.) With the tribe’s pending compact rejected once already by the Legislature in August 2006, and with another set of difficult legislative hearings pending, the tribe wisely reached an agreement with the city in March 2007. Once the compact is ratified, no similar leverage would be available to other cities.

Widening gap between rich and poor tribes

The concentrated market power among the five wealthiest tribes that would follow from the proposed compacts is a far cry from the federal government’s original rationale that Indian gaming would help poor tribes. (Gambling on Tribal Lands; Legislative Constitutional Amendment. Text of Proposition 1A)

In the spring of 2000, industry proponents told California voters in a ballot argument “Indian gaming on tribal lands has replaced welfare with work, despair with hope and dependency with self-reliance.” Voters saw television ads featuring Indians in poverty to make their argument. Yet seven years later, as the industry surpasses $7 billion per year, and five wealthy tribes are poised to cash in on their political strategy, the original promise is largely unfulfilled. What has happened instead is that a small group has benefited greatly, while the vast majority of Indians in California have seen little change in their fortunes.

Since the industry’s inception, its spoils have been unevenly distributed. Nine percent of California’s Indians are enrolled in a tribe with a gaming compact, and only an estimated 0.6 percent benefit from the pending five compacts. The National Gambling Impact Study Commission (NIGC) reported in 1998 that just ten tribes, out of 106 with casinos, accounted for one-half of the industry’s net income of $1.9 billion nationwide. (National Gambling Impact Study Commission. Accessed January 24, 2007) The most recent figures from NIGC show the trend has worsened over time, with just five percent of tribal gaming casinos accounting for 43 percent of total industry revenues in 2005, the last year for which data are available. (National Indian Gaming Commission. Accessed January 24, 2007)

Combined, the total membership of the five wealthiest tribes comprises approximately one-half the population of one large California tribe, the Quechan, and one-third of the Yurok tribe, yet their deal is estimated to be worth a lopsided $60 billion in new tribal revenue. Their combined market share is expected to rise exponentially from nearly 16 percent to as much as 32 percent, depending on the extent to which they take over market share from other tribes.

Competition between tribes for the right to operate casinos has been intense, but the latest deals suggest the wealthiest tribes are winning out, often at the expense of poor tribes. A Los Angeles Times article published during compact deliberations in August 2006 demonstrated this troubling trend in the tribal gaming industry. The article reported the growing divide between the state’s rich and poor tribes. It showed the sharp elbow tactics used by some of the rich tribes to maintain their dominance of the state’s lucrative industry.

Los Coyotes in rural San Diego County is a member of the latter group without a ratified compact. Los Coyotes successfully executed a compact with the governor in 2005, but that compact was not ratified after intense opposition from the tribes operating the state’s biggest and most profitable casinos. Ironically, it was the image of Francine Kupsch of the Los Coyotes tribe that was beamed across the state when the industry went to the ballot seeking permission to operate tribal casinos. Of her role in helping to get the industry started, Kupsch said, “I felt honored.” But in response to the wealthy tribes’ opposition to a casino for her tribe, Kupsch said, “Now I don’t. It gives me that nauseated feeling.” (Dan Morain, “Casino Tribes Try to Keep Entire Pot: The wealthy groups use political clout to stymie efforts by poor Indians to open own facilities: Los Angeles Times, August 2006)

Regardless of the scale of their need, the poor, less influential tribes with the worst locations will gain nothing in California’s recent changes in tribal gaming policy.

Location, location, location

On one side are the small, rich tribes such as Agua Caliente, Morongo, Pechanga, San Manuel and Sycuan who benefit from the historical accident of a good location. Their reservations are located near major highways and large populations. On the other side, are the often larger tribes, with bigger and frequently poorer populations, who didn’t win the “location lottery.”

Those tribes located near large population centers and served by good roads are the clear winners in California. There are approximately 3.8 million people living within 50 miles of the five wealthy tribes, more than three times the average nearby population for all other tribal casinos combined. Perhaps the biggest winner in the location lottery is the Agua Caliente tribe which has two casinos, one located in the middle of downtown Palm Springs, and the other less than 1,000 feet from off ramps to Interstate 10, one of Southern California’s busiest highways.

The five tribes in the 2006 compacts also are located near more wealthy areas of the state, and have turned location advantage into market and political dominance. Their nearby populations have 13 percent higher median incomes than populations near all other tribal casinos.

As a nominal gesture to the tribes left out of the deals, the state has agreed to grant $1.1 million in annual casino revenues to all tribes without casinos. However, the Legislative Analyst’s Office (LAO) said the state fund from which these monies would be paid “may be depleted within one to three years,” forcing the state to dip into the General Fund to make up the shortfall, again undermining the governor’s strongest argument in support of the new deals.

Gaping hole in casino oversight

Gambling is an all cash business. Notoriously high cash flows and profits make tribal casinos an attractive target for many forms of criminal activity. Just months after Governor Schwarzenegger’s announcement to triple the gambling revenues for the five tribes, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit struck down the audit and oversight ability of the principal federal watchdog agency for gambling. The ruling said the federal agency had no authority to audit tribal casinos, eliminating a vital safeguard that helps keep tribal casinos out of the hands of criminals. Unless and until Congress acts to fix the hole, or the compacts are amended to include strong oversight provisions, Californians have lost a crucial element of law enforcement for a $7 billion cash industry.

The early history of Las Vegas and Atlantic City are laced with stories about organized crime in the casino industry. Unfortunately, California tribal casinos and others nationwide also have been the targets of criminal activity, such as:

• Employees at California’s Pechanga and Coyote Valley casinos have been the subject of criminal indictments. In 2006, the Pechanga casino controller pled guilty to embezzling almost a half-million dollars from the casino. (Jose Carvajal, “Former Pechanga controller-turned-embezzler speaks out on his compulsive gambling,” The Californian. March 25, 2006.)

• In 2006, the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network assessed $2.5 million in civil penalties against an Oklahoma tribe and a tribal casino official for using fictitious social security numbers, “an unreported deposit of $300,000 in cash from a duffel bag, and other suspicious transactions.” (Press release. March 24, 2006. Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, US Department of the Treasury)

• During the past three years, NIGC has referred more than 30 cases of suspected criminal activity at tribal casinos to federal law enforcement agencies. (Kevin Johnson, “Feds: Ruling hurts oversight of Indian casinos.” USA Today. November 30, 2006)

• NIGC’s web site lists sixteen enforcement actions against California tribal casinos.

• In NIGC’s enforcement action against California’s Santa Rosa Rancheria, NIGC alleged the tribe “failed to conduct background investigations, including federal criminal history checks on key employees and primary management officials” and failed to conduct sufficient background investigations to determine whether casino officials were suitable for employment.

Because of the federal ruling, NIGC said it had no choice but to cancel 15 to 20 planned audits at tribal casinos. (Peter Hecht, “Ruling Leaves Casino Oversight Gap: As some federal audits are called off, California may review its tribal compacts.” The Sacramento Bee. December 26, 2006.)

Tribes say they are regulated closely by three levels of government – tribal, state and federal – but NIGC has undertaken 138 enforcement actions against tribes where tribal oversight failed and the agency subsequently stepped in to play a crucial oversight function. NIGC established Minimal Internal Control Standards to help create a paper trail on undocumented cash transactions. The agency reviewed the audits that all tribes must undergo, and occasionally did fraud or investigative audits that led to referrals to law enforcement agencies. As Senator John McCain, former chair of the U.S. Senate Committee on Indian Affairs warned, “I do not believe that self-regulation without oversight is real regulation.” (Hecht. Ibid)

Both Governor Schwarzenegger and Senator Dianne Feinstein raised serious concerns about the vacuum of government oversight over Indian gaming, in separate letters to U.S. Senator Byron Dorgan and U.S. Senator Craig Thomas, the chair and ranking member, respectively, of the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs. In his letter, Gov. Schwarzenegger called for federal legislation to allow the federal government (through the National Indian Gaming Commission) to establish and enforce the Minimum Internal Control Standards for Indian gaming. By doing so, the Governor is acknowledging that current state oversight, including those in the proposed compacts, are seriously inadequate. In her letter, Senator Feinstein expressed “deep concern” about the elimination of federal oversight of Indian gaming. She wrote: “Even if the State were to take measures to address the current oversight deficiencies, it could take years for an updated, effective enforcement regime to be established and effective.” (Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger letter to the Honorable Byron Dorgan and the Honorable Craig Thomas Re: NIGC Class III Gaming Authority, Minimum Internal Control Standards. March 30, 2007. Senator Dianne Feinstein letter to the Honorable Byron Dorgan and the Honorable Craig Thomas, March 19, 2007.)

In the wake of the federal ruling, the state’s only realistic avenue to impose formal oversight on tribal casinos is through the compacts. As currently constructed, the proposed compacts contain inadequate oversight mechanisms to prevent money-laundering and other criminal activities that pose safety risks to the public. The lack of oversight also makes it virtually impossible for the state to be sure casinos are making their proper payments to the state’s General Fund – undercutting the cornerstone of Governor Schwarzenegger’s position in favor of the compacts.

CONCLUSION

This report demonstrates why the compacts negotiated with five tribes by Governor Schwarzenegger in 2006 should be rejected by the Legislature. Although increased state revenue sharing is the principal argument in favor of the compacts, in reality, the agreements provide just 0.5 percent of state General Fund revenue and fall far short of agreements recently achieved in other states. The Legislative Analyst’s Office (LAO) found even these projections “not realistic.” The LAO also warned of the potential negative effects of the compacts on vital state programs that help non-gaming tribes, and assist local governments in financing the public safety services that are necessary to cope with the impacts of expanded tribal casino gambling.

The compacts are inconsistent with the original rationale for legalization of tribal casinos – to improve the economic viability of all tribes. Instead, the wealthiest tribes, which happen to be the largest political contributors, have won lucrative expansion deals while poorer tribes are denied even the opportunity to operate small casinos.

Last, the compacts fail to address in any way the effects of the recent federal court ruling which eliminated the federal regulatory oversight of tribal casinos, leaving the public with no independent ability to ensure that tribal casino games are run fairly, to verify the amount of revenue to which the state is entitled and to deter criminal activities such as money laundering.

The state of California has a compelling interest in securing tribal gaming compacts that protect the state taxpayers, local communities and the majority of the Indian population that has been left out of the process. The compacts of 2006 achieve none of these objectives, and should be rejected by the Legislature.

Peter Dreier is the E.P. Clapp Distinguished Professor of Politics at Occidental College where he is the Chair of the Urban & Environmental Policy Program. He is coauthor of "The Next Los Angeles: The Struggle for a Livable City" and "Place Matters: Metropolitics for the 21st Century and writes frequently for the Los Angeles Times, The Nation, and other publications The original of this was published by the Urban & Environmental Policy Institute and is republished with the permission of the author.

Posted on May 25, 2007

Comments

BRAVO Professor.

Posted by: Paulina Hunter at May 25, 2007 06:41 AM

the one thing that i don't read is about how tribes start kickiing you out then tell you are know longer a tribal member . just so that serten ones will bennefits .peaple shougld be told how they will tell you are no longer a tribal member .but they will use your name when they want money from the government.

Posted by: anthony oddo at May 25, 2007 01:18 PM

As I thought, there's no evidence here that Indian gaming has hurt California's poorest tribes. Let's take a look at Dreier's arguments:

* The "widening gap between rich and poor tribes" is a statistical abstraction that doesn't hurt poor tribes or help rich tribes. It implies the rich tribes are taking from the poor tribes, which is simply untrue.

* "The federal government’s original rationale that Indian gaming would help poor tribes" applies to tribes like Agua Caliente, Pechanga, and Morongo. They were once poor too and now they're not.

* The Indian Gaming Regulatory Act never intended to help all tribes equally. Gaming was and is a voluntary program for those who choose to pursue it. IGRA's proponents understood that not all tribes could or would pursue it. To assert that rich tribes or any other malign factor is keeping poor tribes from gaming is an out-and-out lie.

* Not only has the "competition between tribes for the right to operate casinos" not been intense, it's been almost nonexistent.

The only evidence Dreier presents for this alleged competition is the one time in 2005 when rich gaming tribes opposed compacts for two poor gaming tribes. But these tribes weren't in competition, since they were located in entirely different parts of the state. The rich tribes opposed the compacts because they gave too much authority to the state of California. In other words, because they set a precedent for weakening tribal sovereignty.

See http://www.bluecorncomics.com/stype597.htm for a discussion of this issue.

In short, at least one of Dreier's charges is bogus. Let's hope the other ones are more substantial than this one is.

Posted by: Rob at May 25, 2007 08:05 PM

Clarification: I believe the same tribes opposed the same compacts in 2006 for the same reason. I'd still count that as one instance of opposing onerous compacts.

In addition, they joined most Californians in opposing the off-reservation casino proposed in the Los Coyotes-Big Lagoon deal. Why? Not only did it harm tribal sovereignty, but it expanded gaming to a place Californians never envisioned when they passed Proposition 5 in 1998.

Located in Barstow, this casino would've competed with San Manuel's casino, so one can question that tribe's motivations. But it wouldn't have competed with the other casinos operated by the so-called rich tribes. As a rule, these tribes don't oppose other casinos in their neighborhood. For instance, Pechanga hasn't opposed the dozen or so casinos closer to it than the proposed Barstow casino.

So again, there's little or no evidence of competition between rich and poor tribes. There's tons of evidence of gaming tribes coexisting with neighboring gaming tribes without challenging them in the Legislature. In short, this claim of competition is essentially a fiction.

See http://www.bluecorncomics.com/stype683.htm for more on the subject.

Posted by: Rob at May 25, 2007 08:56 PM

This comment:

"Tribes say they are regulated closely by three levels of government – tribal, state and federal – but NIGC has undertaken 138 enforcement actions against tribes where tribal oversight failed and the agency subsequently stepped in to play a crucial oversight function."

is ironic considering Dreier said oversight was "nonexistent" in part 1 of this series. Apparently he thinks "nonexistent" means "insufficient" or something similar. In the future, Dreier might want to improve his writing by avoiding hyperbole whenever possible.

Posted by: Rob at May 25, 2007 09:00 PM

It is always easy to spot the people that are in the pocket of the Rich Gaming Tribes. They always have something postive to say about the rich and always lambast those that say anything negative. Like Rob, who is so far off base it isnt even pathetic anymore its just sad.

"In addition, they joined most Californians in opposing the off-reservation casino proposed in the Los Coyotes-Big Lagoon deal. Why? Not only did it harm tribal sovereignty, but it expanded gaming to a place Californians never envisioned when they passed Proposition 5 in 1998."

Laughable. The only people that came out and spoke against Barstow was the Big Gaming tribes, Some Politicians, and a minority of the local high desert population. Nothing one tribe does is really going to affect another tribes rights, each tribe is an independant government. And as far as Prop 5 and 1A I believe it was. Nothing in those said anything about limiting Gaming to current reservations. Or anything about not allowing gaming to expand off current reservations. That is just something that people read into it, read the legislation and read the words. Besides Prop 5 was nullified which is where we got Prop 1A from. If you want to oppose Barstow like I do, do it for the right reason. Barstow along with the entire High Desert is part of the Western Shoshone Homeland, as outlined by the Treaty of Ruby Valley between the Western Shoshone and the good ol USA. If you want to oppose Los Coyotes/Big Lagoon get it right and oppose it for the right reason, to stop two tribes from infringing on the Ancestral Homeland of another tribe.

"* The Indian Gaming Regulatory Act never intended to help all tribes equally. Gaming was and is a voluntary program for those who choose to pursue it. IGRA's proponents understood that not all tribes could or would pursue it. To assert that rich tribes or any other malign factor is keeping poor tribes from gaming is an out-and-out lie."

IGRA was brought about because it was found that tribes could conduct gaming. The federal government did IGRA to try to regulate gaming upon Indian Lands. When it was found that tribes had the right to conduct gaming as long as the state they were in allowed it in some form. As far as Tribes getting rich and pulling themselves out of poverty with gaming, yeah if its one of the lucky tribes that won the location lottery they are all set. For the vast majority of tribes that are stuck in remote locations they are screwed.

It is plain to see that Rob is in the pocket of the Big Gaming Tribes. You can read his posts and see that he is all for the Big and Rich and against anyone that is against the Big and Rich.

Also Frank Lee from over at TvT is another that is in the pockets of the Big and Rich. I used to think TvT was a site that was out to expose greed and corruption. However as it turns out TvT is only out to oppose the enemies of the Big and Rich tribes. Which was quite obvious when I criticized the big and rich tribes for being greedy and was censored for it. In the end the 5 Rich gaming tribes have no reason to expand their gambling operations other than a base greed for more money. They are no longer poor, they are no longer in poverty, and they no longer are dependant on the Federal Government. They have all the money they could every need and yet they all want more. Its utter B.S. I know that the politicians in Sacramento won't care, eventually they will relent and ratify the compacts, and the rest of poverty stricken tribes will continue to struggle. Nothing will change and only the smallest percentage of California Indians will directly benefit from Expanded Gaming.

As always if you don't agree with my opinions you can walk to any wall of your choosing and bang your head until your ears bleed. Cause I don't care what you think of me or my thoughts, but I will defend your right to argue with me.

And Thus Endeth The Sermon

Posted by: Splixx at May 26, 2007 02:39 PM

You are wrong Larry Halstead

Posted by: Frank Lee at May 27, 2007 03:10 PM

The professor falls short on his analysis of the Los Coyotes circumstances. Leaders of the Los Coyotes reservation have lived a lifetime at the Morongo Reservation in Riverside County. They are being paid now to front for Detroit casino syndicators who desire to enter the lucrative California marketplace by developing dual indian casinos that will anchor their mega resort in Barstow CA midway between Las Vegas and Los Angeles.

In fact, the point person on the Barstow Casino project for the Los Coyotes tribe wasn't able to point out generally the location of his tribe's proposed casino on a large map of Barstow when asked to do so during a sworn court deposition in 2006 -- after four years of negotiations with the City and the state!

Further Francine Kupsch has a history of being paid to make political appearances not only was she paid to appear in the ads referenced but campaign disclosure documents indicate in 2006 she and members of her family were paid for their "grassroots" appearances in Barstow and she was paid to organize and participate in a "fast" on the grounds of the state Capitol.

Posted by: Frank Lee at May 27, 2007 03:21 PM

Only rich gaming tribes oppose off-reservation casinos, Splixx? Let me relieve your apparent ignorance on the subject:

http://www.greenbergresearch.com/articles/2034/3731_CTBA07m.pdf

Voters believe off-reservation gaming should remain off-limits. Nearly three quarters of voters (72 percent) oppose the idea of allowing Indian gaming operations outside of Indian reservations as only one out of five (21 percent) supports it. This high level of opposition holds when presented the specific example of Big Lagoon.

Posted by: Rob Schmidt at August 13, 2007 05:46 PM

Actually, Splixx, I have a whole page devoted to Indian gaming at http://www.bluecorncomics.com/gaming.htm. If you'd read it before you spouted off, you'd know I make no distinctions between "rich" and "poor" tribes. Like the public as a whole, I generally favor Indian gaming with some limitations.

Incidentally, San Manuel has responded to the charge that it's trying to limit competition in Barstow:

http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_6609493

"Our response to that, very simply, is that the Chemehuevi tribe along the Colorado River, they are also proposing a casino in Barstow, and we're not opposed to that because they share ancestral connections to the Barstow area with the Serrano Indians," said Coin. San Manuels are Serrano.

Posted by: Rob Schmidt at August 13, 2007 05:55 PM

Proposition 5 was "nullified" on a technicality, true. But Proposition 1A passed by an even greater margin than Proposition 5 did.

Neither proposition needed to say anything about off-reservation gaming because IGRA already addresses the issue. The propositions were intended to ratify state compacts, not to change the scope of IGRA. As California's Legislative Analyst put it, Proposition 5 required "the state to enter into a specific compact allowing certain Class III gambling activities on Indian lands for those tribes that agree to sign the agreement."

As for this statement:

"If you want to oppose Los Coyotes/Big Lagoon get it right and oppose it for the right reason, to stop two tribes from infringing on the Ancestral Homeland of another tribe."

This is precisely the reason San Manuel opposes the Barstow casino. You didn't respond to my assertion that other tribes in Southern California have no reason to oppose a Barstow casino since they wouldn't be competing with it. Like Dreier, you apparently have no evidence whatsoever that any tribe opposes the Barstow casino for competitive reasons.

Posted by: Rob Schmidt at August 13, 2007 06:12 PM

So will there ever be a casino resort in Barstow? and If so, when do you think?

Posted by: adam at February 28, 2008 04:14 PM

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