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A Revealing Interview of Governor Schwarzenegger

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By Frank D. Russo

John Myers of KQED has a very revealing interview of Arnold Schwarzenegger that I recommend very highly listening to, as the Governor leaves clues as to these issues, and more:

• Whether more laws are needed in the wake of the fiery crash of a gasoline tanker truck the collapsed a major freeway, "the Maze" on the Oakland side of the Bay

• Whether ballot initiatives are needed to pressure legislators into action on redistricting and whether he agrees with those who are threatening to gather signatures on this issue

• How term limits, redistricting, and campaign finance reform tie together

• The prison system and additional reforms such as parole and sentencing changes

• Healthcare--what's on the table, whether he favors a piecemeal approach, and a single payer approach such as that in Senator Kuehl's bill

• How he views government

• What needs to be done to reduce greenhouse gases and whether there needs to be sacrifices

• Water shortages and how to deal with it from conservation to water storage and dams

• Tribal gaming casinos, why he is pushing the compacts he signed last year, and what are the limits of expansion of slot machines in the state

• The role of the special interests in Sacramento

• Education and the goals of "the teacher's union"

• How well the legislators are working together


John Myers is a great interviewer. He asks the best questions of the Capitol press corps, perhaps, at press conferences of legislators and other elected officials. How he managed to cover this territory and ask a few follow-up questions is amazing. The extended version of the interview is available online at KQED to listen to. I am sure those involved in these issues as well as the Governor's political philosophy will be analyzing these words and in some cases issuing responses of their own.

Here is what caught my ear:

As to redistricting, campaign finance reform and term limits, these have been linked in what he endorses and he doesn't necessarily favor a redistricting proposal be placed on the ballot by signature gathering:

"The timing is there. They know exactly when they have to pass it, when they have to do it. The also know that we will only endorse the term limit only if it is combined with redistricting and also with some kind of campaign finance reform. So, there is the important thing.

I think everyone understands that. I think there's no reason for putting any extra pressure on the legislators at this point simply because the legislators have actually worked very well together, Democrats and Republicans, and we have seen on how quickly we made a decision on changing the election day, on changing election day for the primaries from June to February. We have seen the prison agreement come together between Democrats and Republicans, even though many in the press were doubting it. … Things do happen in the building and I myself am amazed at how well they work together."

On the prisons and the penal system, he spoke of many of the details, re-entry beds, the early release of county jail inmates that has already occurred because the jails are overcrowded. When he was asked about the fact that he has paroled more inmates than Democratic Governor Gray Davis, he said:

"I've always said to our Democratic leaders and to our Republican leaders, I said: We should put everything on the table--which is building more prisons, which is looking at parole reform, and also at a sentencing commission. I'm willing to talk about all of those things, but we should always be clear that we should not release people out of prison and put them back out on the street just because we run out of space. It won't happen."

On healthcare, he is opposed to piecemeal approaches such as taking care of the problem of uninsured children by itself, because the money just isn't there unless the problem is dealt with in a comprehensive fashion. He said, once again that everything should be on the table, and mention the Perata, Nunez, Republican, and Senator Kuehl's bills.

Myers noted that the Governor had called Kuehl's bill "socialized medicine." Myers then pointed out "but the plan still has private providers provide the care" and referenced Medicare. At this point Schwarzenegger had cited polls showing that only 20% of those asked wanted "government running the health care system." He then said:

"Government has had the chance to run the health care system which is in the health care system in our prisons and look what happened. A Federal judge had to take over because it was such a disaster."

Myers asked if prison health care is the same thing as "regular health care," and Schwarzenegger said:

"Absolutely because it is government running it.

Government cannot run things. I'm telling you that I'm personally so against government running things because you don't have the experts here that run it. The private sector has the experts. The private sector also has the money. The private sector has the best executives. We cannot hire those people with a salary of $130,000 when they get $500,000 to $1 million dollars out there. It doesn't work. We do not have the capability of doing it. The best way of doing it is to have government set the rules, the guidelines, and have the private sector take care of it, because they have the experts, they can do it."

On greenhouse gases, and global warming, and the environment and whether sacrifices also had to be made, the Governor went into a long answer about many facets and included water in the discussion:

"I think it's very important that people use less water. We have a limited amount of energy. We have a limited amount of water. That's why we have to have above the ground and below the ground storage. We have to build more dams no matter how you look at it because we have an increasing population."

Governor Schwarzenegger said we need "technology and conservation combined."

On the question of tribal gaming and slot machines and how much more California can handle, the Governor said "We cannot go overboard." When asked to define the parameters of this, he responded that "Well, everyone has their own opinion." He said his administration had been very cautious in its approach, that a certain segment of the population wants to gamble, and that what he had proposed "just means that people are going to stay in California rather than Vegas. I want to keep people in California." He then went on to say:

"It creates a lot of jobs when you go to those casinos, a lot of really good paying jobs. I'm looking mostly not for the casinos, I'm looking out for the state."

He then repeated his assertion that the casino compacts would bring $500 million in revenues to the state and recited the many programs that this money could fund. He said the state has $103 billion of money that is coming in to spend, and no more, and that this money is needed. He chided the legislature that each day it delays in approval it is costing the state this money.

For his last question, Myers was primed with a quote of two years ago of the Governor , that is similar to what he used when he first ran for the office in the recall, about the special interests running Sacramento. He was asked if that was still the case and here is the exchange:

"The special interests have tremendous influence on the legislators. The special interests have a tremendous influence on our political outcome. And this is why it's very important that when people get campaign contributions or any money from anyone that they don’t sell out and it's "money in and favors out." Q. They don’t run the town?

I think the very nature. They're very experienced and trained people. They have tremendous influence in this building and I think the most important thing is that when you look back, it is last year what has been accomplished, the legislators have been extraordinary. Democrats and Republicans have come together and have made decisions, not what is best for the special interests, but what is best for the people of Califoria, so I'm very proud of the Republicans that they have gotten their act together and have really done things. [Litany omitted]

A lot of those things, what is good about it is, they are things that maybe special interests are fighting for but also things that are very good for the people of Calfornia.

Q. So if the two interests match together..

Sometimes it matches together, because, if the, you know, the uinions, let's say the teachers' union is fighting for better education for our kids and they're fighting for getting more teachers on board--well, it's exactly what we want. We want them to have more salaries. We want them to have more teachers in schools. We want to expand, and you know, have less kids in the classroom and make those classrooms bigger, and all those things that we want to do. These are maybe the same things that the union wants. So then it fits very well. But if it is something that is just in the union's interest and not in the …"

At this point the version on the web stops, but I think you get the picture.

Posted on May 04, 2007

Comments

It sounds to me that the Governor does not have the kind of confidences in our government than those who manages the private institutions.

If he sees that there is a problem in bringing in qualified professionals to run our government, then he should identify where the problem is and correct it. A good example is Insurance Commissioner Steve Poizner. He identified and saw the problem in SCIF and called for an Audit. His experiences was valuable asset, that he was able to identify immediately, that there was a need for a separation of duties and asked the legal department's duty in the SCIF to be independent of the other department and also by demanding that SCIF hire a CFO. He also demanded an Audit from top to bottom.

So what solution does the Governor have that was clearly his own idea? Workers Comp Reform? Reform designed by the insurance lobbyist? Reform to improve the economy (profit) of the insurance industry?
It is obvious that he didn't study the ramifications of his reform COMPLETELY. Everyone (insurance industry and Employers) have benefitted from his reform. The very individuals that the insurance was designed for (injured workers) was being shafted.

If this is a success, I would be remissed to find out what he considers a failure.

I wonder what academic achievement he obtain to make him think that this was a complete success?

I would be very skeptical what reform he has up his sleeves when it comes to Health Care reform? I hope he does not use his SB899 workers comp reform as his model. We the people will be in a big trouble when our life is in the hands of an employer that only has one goal....profit at the expense of employees.

Posted by: anon at May 4, 2007 08:42 PM

OUR LEADERS FACED A TOUGH CHOICE WITH PRISON OVERCROWDING AND THEY MADE THEIR CHOICE!

Our leaders had to deal with a very big decision: Spend about $1.5 billion to eliminate prison overcrowding and disappoint some really important, significant constituent groups or spend about $7.7 billion, be able to proudly claim a bi-partisan victory and really please the important significant constituent groups . Guess which decision they made!

The State could eliminate current prison overcrowding for about $1.5 billion and “save” about $6 billion by addressing the cause of prison overcrowding – a massive county jail bed shortage. Instead they decided on a package that funds 40,000 additional prison beds to deal with a 16,600 prison bed shortage and funds 13,000 county jail beds for a 100,000 county jail bed shortage The additional prison beds will result in a surplus of over 23,000 prison beds and the additional jail beds will leave the counties with a shortage of about 87,000 beds. Dealing with the county jail bed shortage would obviously eliminate prison overcrowding, but there isn’t any support for that approach.

Of course the state could conduct a system analysis and determine how many jail and prison beds are actually needed. They didn’t and won’t because they don’t have to. Victory over the prison problem will be widely trumpeted and the state will build prison beds, a lot more than needed. There will be a perception that prison reform is going on. Everyone who counts will be happy.

When dealing with crime, punishment and prisons, perceptions are far more important than reality!

Posted by: richard mckone at May 13, 2007 12:38 PM

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